Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriams Turkeys. Got a Buffalo up there , why ont Elk ? During the spring hunt be prepared for cold temperatures and even snow. There is also a small herd that lives just south of Fredonia in the grassland/ low shrub density areas. Use temperature ranges to plan and prepare for your hunt. Please contact any department office for additional information or to purchase an elk OTC tag. G&F has enough problems with buffalo in that area and doesn't want ANY elk getting established in the Kaibab. There are only a few conveniences provided along Hwy 89A in the small communities of Vermilion Cliffs, Cliff Dwellers, Marble Canyon and Jacob Lake. There are many stock tanks located throughout House Rock Valley and the antelope herds tend to center their activities on these water sources depending on the frequency of summer monsoons. You know when they say that something sounds too good to be true then A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. Hunt success figures have fluctuated around the 40-50% range for the last decade, some of the highest hunt success for mule deer in the state. Like mentioned above check the g&f site and give the manager a call. Very few deer reside in 12BW year round, making it difficult to hunt during the archery season in August and September. Elevations range from 6,500-9,000. Grouse, like squirrels, appear to be most active early in the morning but walking throughout the day can result in flushed birds. Units 12A East, 12AWest and 12B require near max points, but hunters lucky enough to draw an East side Kaibab tag are in store for an incredible mule deer hunt. A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. Concentrate your efforts in areas with waterholes (not necessarily on the water), as the plateau is often dry at this time of the year. The north rim of the Paria Canyon is accessed from Big Water, Utah and also requires 4-wheel drive due to soft sand. Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mule Deer, Chukar. Just bad luck. Come join the discussion about safety, gear, tips, tricks, optics, gunsmithing, reviews, reports, accessories, classifieds, and more! Forest road 732 accesses the area around Squaw Peak. But it is any elk so.At least you'll get to see a lot of the Grand Canyon. Adjust your hunting strategies accordingly and have fun. Welcome to the board. Books and countless articles have been written on the subject. Do you have landowner tags, lease land, or have an lodge? Our Arizona hunting unit scouting packages were developed to give the do it yourself hunter a head start when planning their Arizona Deer, Elk, Bear and Javelina hunts. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. All three hunts are for any . However, for the past few years, bison have been seen near Wall Lake, as well as along Forest Service Roads 219B, 223, 270, and 610. Although this herd is only estimated to have around 100 animals, the herd appears to be fairly stable. Also, several lions are sighted each year by hunters glassing canyons and watching waters. The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. Articles often lead to false expectations; huge bucks do not exist behind every tree anywhere in the world. With continued and persistent drought the woody winter browse in 12AW has been less productive for the past several years and as result concerns over the carrying capacity of this vital range are warranted. The Kaibab has supplied many happy hunting experiences in the past and will hopefully continue to do so for generations to come. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab National Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; northeasterly along the park boundary to Glen Canyon National Recreation area; easterly along the recreation area boundary to the Colorado River; northeasterly along the Colorado River to the Arizona-Utah state line; westerly along the state line to Kanab Creek; southerly along Kanab Creek to the Kaibab National Forest boundary; northerly, easterly, and southerly along this boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566; except those portions that are sovereign tribal lands of the Kaibab Band of Paiute Indians. During the fall hunt, turkey hunting is a totally different game. Major Cities and Towns in or Near Game Management Unit and Nearest Gas, Food, and Lodging Grouse hunting is a great excuse to come to the Kaibab to enjoy a cooler climate. Included in these hunts are bull only, antlerless and even 275 any-elk tags. With continued and persistent drought the woody winter browse in 12AW has been less than productive for the past several years and as result concerns over the carrying capacity of this vital range are warranted. Unit 12A continues to provide the turkey hunter and/or wildlife enthusiast a unique opportunity to observe Merriam's Turkeys. Areas: Concentrate your efforts on the southeast side of the Plateau in sub-unit 12AE. Finally, mule deer throughout their range are altering their behavior as hunting pressure increases. Areas: Concentrate your efforts on the southeast side of the Plateau in sub-unit 12AE. Keep movements to a minimum, scan the surrounding area constantly, and listen for turkey vocalizations. Humphreys Peak is the highest point in Arizona, sitting at 12,637 feet in elevation, and it is a dormant volcano. Remember this deer herd is extremely migratory and will remain at higher elevations until significant snowfall pushes them off. Overview: Unit 12A, world famous for the Kaibab Deer Herd, is also home to one of the premier turkey populations in the state of Arizona. Mature grouse average between 2 and 4 pounds of succulent white meat and provide delicious table fare. This exotic game bird, native to the Middle East, was introduced into various areas in Arizona. During the winter months access to areas within Unit 12 can be extremely limited, even nonexistent. This is my first year being drawn for elk and got a tag for all 12 and 13 units for any elk and this tag is good until April of '19. Grouse hunting is a great excuse to come to the Kaibab to enjoy a cooler climate. Create a free account to read the rest of this access note! The bottom line you may have to wait almost a quarter of your life to get a tag to go hunting in . BOOK YOUR HUNT. The lion population in Unit 12 is a migratory population of rought 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. Unit 3a/3c - second choice. It is very sandy and requires 4-wheel drive. Most of House Rock Valley is fairly flat with low rolling hills, so it is important to be able to locate the antelope from a distance and plan your stalk according to the surrounding terrain and conditions. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If you are considering hunting mountain lions in Unit 12 for the first time, consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase you likelihood of success. Finally, remember that you could be sitting in the office and enjoy the opportunity to get away and take part in the oldest most admirable sport there is. As the crow flies its not more than 50 miles to the north end of the Kaibab plateau. According to Arizona Game and Fish, Hunt No. Elk will be found from the Mogollon Rim south to Parker Creek. 0. Like many Arizona elk units, 5A bulls are very responsive to calling. Books and countless articles have been written on the subject. Important Note: (See unit description under Unit Boundaries) 12BW includes the Buckskins to the north of the Kaibab and the west side winter range including Pigeon Canyon and Gunsight Point. A few, very few elk wander south from Utah now and then. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. During the hunting seasons, unit 12A is characterized by sudden and drastic weather changes. This is a large area, so scouting will be beneficial. As unit 10 is known for giant bull elk, Units 12A and 13B are just as famous for producing monster mule deer bucks and Arizona Wildlife Outfitters has taken their share of trophy heads from both units. Hunters with a 12B permit (vs. 12BW permit) may hunt the Paria Plateau as well as the rest of the Unit. City of Page Chamber of Commerce 928 645-2741, Https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/, https://www.azgfd.com/Hunting/Questionnaires/. Worst case you get to explore az with some friends! The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab and Paria plateaus are likely areas to locate lion sign. Areas: Any areas with concentrations of deer or sheep often have lions associated with them. Address 123 Main Street New York, NY 10001, Hours MondayFriday: 9:00AM5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: 11:00AM3:00PM. The units we hunt in Arizona: Units 6,8,10,12a,17,19,20,23. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Likewise, hunters who want to hunt the Paria Plateau must apply for a 12B permit. It is the hunters responsibility to know where they are and the state line is patrolled heavily by both Utah and Arizona law enforcement. Note: 12BW is the entire portion of 12B that is west of BLM road 1065 (House Rock Valley/ Coyote Valley Road), excluding the Paria Plateau. The large canyons and rocky areas that form the edges of the Kaibab plateau, both on the east and west side of the plateau, are likely areas to locate lion sign. Overview: The world famous, or infamous, Kaibab Mule Deer herd. On the Kaibab Plateau the bird has a very restricted range occupying mixed conifer habitat types near the south end of the Kaibab National Forest and is also found in the Grand Canyon National Park North Rim. Walking and stalking in areas determined by scouting to hold bachelor herds of bucks can be exciting and productive. After this hunt, you will know what hunt never to apply for again, other then Lots of deer in whole area, and some monsters. Alluvial sandy soils occur throughout most of the unit and vegetation is sparse, consisting mainly of sagebrush at lower elevations and pinyon-juniper trees at higher elevations. I plan on going up there to scout sometime soon but was wondering if anyone has seen elk up there. Units 36A, B and C and unit 35A and 35B have good populations of mule deer (and whitetail deer). In the last few years, only a few elk or elk sign has been seen, mainly around Rock Canyon and the Pine Hollow habitat treatments. Please contact any department office for additional information or to purchase an elk OTC tag. Areas: During the spring turkey hunt significant winter snowfall can affect access and often dictates hunting locations. Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! Well, I wasn't, but welcome to AHT to you also! Birds can sometimes be found along the Paria River, but they generally occupy the upper benches along the cliffs, high above the river. Unlock the secrets of limited license lotteries and discover drawing and harvest trends to create a better hunt planning strategy. It is common to observe bighorns in locations where it is not possible to recover them. The elevation in this area ranges from approximately 1,490' near Lake Mead to more than 8,000' in the Virgin Mountains. Elk are primarily found along the Black Hills that make up the Verde Rim from I-17 to the Bloody Basin road. This may be a good place to introduce yourself and your site or include some credits. The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. Before each hunting trip, verify that the zone is still open, by calling 877-438-0447 or checking online at View harvest thresholds and zone closures. This bird was first documented in 12B in Paria Canyon, but has since been regularly observed along the Kanab Creek/ Snake Gulch drainage. We hunt a variety of units in Arizona. We are a family owned and operated business. Cross country travel is not allowed on BLM lands. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. Travel Management Plans have been completed for the entire Paria Plateau/Vermilion Cliffs National Monument, and are in the process for the western half of 12B including the buckskin mountains. I did find some ancient droppings from over a year before but no elk. If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. As turkeys fly off the roost in the early pre-dawn, often the most active period of the day, they may provide a hunter the best opportunity to call in a wary old longbeard. While realistically many of the heard bulls with average 280-330" in both units. Older age "mature" bulls are taken on a regular basis. The average age of a buck harvested on the late hunts has climbed from just over two years of age to over 4 years of age in the past several years, yearling buck weights have stabilized at an acceptable level in recent years and as a result antler development has been excellent. It has also been introduced in the San Francisco Peaks area near Flagstaff. Many hunters utilize horses and mules, snowmobiles, and other recreational vehicles to overcome these access limitations. The elk nonpermit-tags are not valid in all units statewide. Contact Us Contact Us Thank you for your interest in our Deer and Elk Hunts. If old man winter has not yet shown his face follow the suggestions given for the early hunt and good luck. Hunters interested in purchasing an elk tag should be aware that this unit has few elk and is considered a limited opportunity hunt. Trumbull and or Grand Canyon Wilderness. The Warm Springs and Nail Canyon areas in 12AW and the Cocks Combs area in 12AE are good starting points. A unit may have 80% public land, but a particluar species may only occupy 20% on the entire area. This unit is not known for producing large bulls, though elk in the 300-inch or larger range are occasionally taken. Elk in those areas are VERY few and far between, and if I were you, I wouldn't waste any more $$ on attempting to hunt it. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab National Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; southerly and westerly along the park boundary to Kanab Creek; northerly along Kanab Creek to Snake Gulch; northerly, easterly and southerly around the Kaibab National Forest boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566. Not all weather elements are available within the unit. Jacob Lake Campground, administered by Kaibab National Forest, intersection of U.S. 89A and State Hwy 67 at Jacob Lake; DeMotte Campground, Kaibab National Forest, Hwy 67; Grand Canyon National Park, North Rim. Some bighorns have also been taken from the north rim of the Paria Canyon and near spring sources along the Vermilion Cliffs. Approximately 20% of Arizona's elk hunting opportunity is found in this unit. Identification seems to be a prevalent problem for first time grouse hunters as poult turkeys, Band-tailed Pigeons, and even Northern Goshawks are often mistaken for grouse. Post not marked as liked . Arizona Game and Fish Department, Region II 928 774-5045 The short story is that at several west side springs where I expected to find rubs and wallows, there were none. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. Blue Grouse, Kaibab Squirrel, Merriams Turkey, Mountain Lion, Mule Deer. Large numbers of domestic sheep grazed on the Paria Plateau, Vermilion Cliffs, and Paria Canyon until the 1960s when the Bureau of Land Management converted all grazing permits to cattle only. Remember, 30 bucks are special because they are extremely, extremely rare. It has also been introduced in the San Francisco Peaks area near Flagstaff. Yearly reported harvest figures fluctuate around 1 dozen lions with most of these animals taken by houndsmen during the winter months. in Page; Lees Ferry Campground, 4 miles north of Marble Canyon, administered by the National Park Service. Concentrate your efforts in areas with rim-rock and significant changes in elevation. If you are fortunate enough to receive a coveted 12A deer tag you might consider purchasing a mountain lion tag before heading to the Kaibab. A map of the zones can be found at Mountain Lion management zone map. This behavior includes becoming more and more nocturnal, spending more time in thick aspen and mixed conifer stands, and remaining in unroaded canyon habitats. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Many come with visions of 32 wide racks with multiple points per side, still others are happy with a tender yearling forkhorn. In the last couple of years, only a few elk have been spotted and harvested in the vicinity of Mile and a Half Lake south to Franks Lake, on the west side of the Kaibab Plateau. Create a free account to read the rest of this terrain note! Use common sense; dont take shortcuts as they often take a lot longer than the more sensible route. *There are open limited opportunity draw bison hunts offered in 12A/12B/13A as well as general non-permit tag (non-draw) elk hunts offered in 12B. Also, Jacobs Lake is about 30 minutes from the canyon and a great spot to camp. I'd go the end of September into early October. Concentrate in areas dominated by this type of vegetation and look for turkey tracks in the snow, mud, dust, or around water sources. 3799 - Units 12A, 12B, 13A, and 13B have an extremely low-density elk population, about 40-50 elk combined for all four units. The units lower elevations, those surrounding the plateau, consist of pinyon-juniper stands, open sagebrush, and cliff rose pushes. Unit 12A is bounded on the south by the Grand Canyon, on the west by Kanab Creek, on the east by House Rock Valley, and on the north by the Buckskin Mountains and the Arizona-Utah border. The health and longevity of this winter range is critical to the long term sustainability of the 12A deer herd. The lion population in 12A is a migratory population of roughly 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. From the West: State Hwy 389 Page, Marble Canyon, Jacob Lake, Cliff Dwellers, Fredonia, Major Highways and Roads Leading To They were good 330-350 bulls. If you are considering hunting mountain lions on the Kaibab for the first time consider hiring a good houndsman/guide to increase your likelihood of success. Overview: The Unit 12A Mountain Lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. The majority of the unit is public land administered by the Bureau of Land Management. If old man winter has not yet shown his face follow the suggestions given for the early hunt and good luck. The central part of the unit, the Buckskin Mountains, contains the highest deer densities and is best to hunt after mid-October. Hunters who. Tree stands up or down canyon from waters can be excellent and reduce the inevitable territorial dispute with other hunters over the waterhole. As turkeys fly off the roost in the early pre-dawn, often the most active period of the day, they may provide a hunter the best opportunity to call in a wary old longbeard. It is the hunters responsibility to know where they are and the state line is patrolled heavily by both Utah and Arizona law enforcement. Being prepared on this hunt is even more crucial than on the early hunt. The current yearly limit on lions harvested in Unit 12 stands at 14. Often roosting turkeys will respond to these calls giving a hunter a location to begin the mornings hunt. As indicated by checkstation records, the average mature buck produced by the Kaibab is a 3-5 year old 23-25 four point. These units are specifically managed for wildlife values other than elk, and an established elk population is not desirable. Drier habitat conditions further to the east limit use of this area. Mistakes are painful or expensive or both. There's nothing like autumn on the North Kaibab and Arizona Strip. Adjust your hunting strategies accordingly and have fun. A total of 52 desert bighorn sheep were transplanted in the Paria Canyon-Vermillion Cliffs area in 1984 and 1985 from unit 15B near Lake Mead. Game and fish would rather have hunters do it legally. 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